| Conventional Research |
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Mystery surrounds the origins of the Blairs of
Ladymuir. However, while some of the early Blairs of Ladymuir and their
connections seem obscure, the Lands of Ladymuir comprised an estate of rough
farmlands approximately 10 kilometers north west of Castle Sernpill and Sempill
Loch in Renfrewshire west of Glasgow and about 10 kilometers south of the town
of Kilmacolm. It was these lands which were said to have come into possession of
two brothers, James and William Blair of Dalry, Ayrshire, about 1620.
"Ladymuir" still exists in Renfrewshire and can be found on a detailed map of
Scotland. Further details are unknown.
There are two major mysteries surrounding
the Blairs of Ladymuir. One is their ancestry (it is believed that they were
grandsons of John and Grisel Blair, of the 15th generation of Blair
descendants on the Blair of Blair lineage) and the other is the line of
descent from James to Hugh Blair (b. c1660) who married Margaret Rodger.
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Before we get into a discussion of a Ladymuir connection
to the Blair of Blair, let's first look at the line of descent from James to
Hugh Blair. Shown at the right are three possible lines of descent that various
pedigree charts put forward.
The first line showing Hugh Blair as the
son of James has several problems. It is highly unlikely that James could
be born in 1620 if he came into possession of Ladymuir about 1620. An even
bigger problem is that at least one record indicates that James died prior
to January 16, 1627. There are also other records which indicate this line is not
correct.
The second line shows Hugh as the
gr-gr-gr grandson of James. This line shows James b. about 1585 and his
son John born about 1590, which is quite impossible. Either James would
have to be born around 1570 or John and Hew would have to born later than
established.
The third line is actually the same as
line 1 except it places James' birth as about 1560. This would mean James
was between 30 and 40 when he had John and that he about 60 when he took
procession of Ladymuir.
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Which of these lines, if any, is
correct?
Your guess is as good as mine.
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If James Blair was the grandson of
John Blair and Grisel Sempill, one of the three sons of John shown
at the right would most likely be James' father. Although John had
three other sons (John, Alexander, and Bryce) it is unlikely that
they were father.
If the birth dates of Robert,
Hugh, and Garvin/James are even somewhat accurate it is highly
unlikely that James of Ladymuir would be born before 1595 (and this
assumes Robert was his father and had James when he was 17). If his
father were Hugh or Garvin/James he would have born after 1600. |
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Conventional research still
leave the 2 questions unanswered. Does James Blair of Ladymuir descend from
the Blair of Blair? What is the line of descent from James Blair to Hugh
Blair? Current records do not provide the answers. Maybe in time new records
will be uncovered which will answer these questions, but what if no new
records are discovered?
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| DNA Testing |
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There is probably no way that
DNA testing will help sort out the lineage from James Blair to Hugh Blair.
To do this we would need to find known descendant from the those Blairs
believed to be part of the line, and since we are not even sure who is part
of the line from James to Hugh it is unlikely we will know who their
descendants are.
However, it may be possible to use
DNA testing to determine if the Blair of Ladymuir line descends from the
Blair of Blair. To do so we must accept the assumption that Hugh Blair (b.
c1660) who married Margaret Rodger is a direct descendant of the original
James Blair of Ladymuir. Given the fact Hugh had possession of
Ladymuir this seems like a reasonable assumption.
We now have test results for three
individuals who descend from Hugh Blair and Margaret Rodger through the James Blair/Janet
Laird, John Blair/Elizabeth Crawford line.
Participant #8368 (Ernest William
"Bill" Blair) descends through Matthew Blair (son of John
Blair/Elizabeth Crawford) and Janet Blackwood. Bill has tested on 25
markers.
Participant #36943 (Robert Douglas Blair)
descends through John Blair (son of John Blair/Elizabeth Crawford) and Agnes
Taylor. Robert has tested on 37 markers.
The 3rd individual (SGMF01) is not part of
the Blair DNA Project, but tested with the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy
Foundation (SMGF). SGMF01 descends from John Blair/Agnes Taylor, just
like Robert. However Robert comes down through son John while SMGF01 comes
down through son Robert. The chart
below shows the lines tested in yellow. |
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The test results for the
three participants are shown below. First
there no doubt that all three participants are in fact descendants of John
Blair and Elizabeth Crawford. All three participants match exactly on all
the markers they tested in common. #8368 and #36943 are a 25/25 match.
#8368 and SMGF01 match 17/17. #36943 and SGMF01 match 24/24. Second
there is no doubt that John Blair (and Elizabeth Crawford) does not
descend from the Blair of Blair. The best match #36943 has with
anyone in Group 1 who tested on 37 markers is 22 for 37, indicating less a
0.5% probability of sharing a common ancestor with 24 generations. At the 25
marker level the best match #8368 and #36943 have with
anyone in Group 1 is 15 for 25, also indicating less a
0.5% probability of sharing a common ancestor with 24 generations. |
| Marker |
1 |
2 |
3 |
4 |
5 |
6 |
7 |
8 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
15 |
16 |
17 |
18 |
19 |
20 |
21 |
22 |
23 |
24 |
25 |
26 |
27 |
28 |
29 |
30 |
31 |
32 |
33 |
34 |
35 |
36 |
37 |
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DYS# |
Part ID# |
3 9 3 |
3 9 0 |
1 9 * |
3 9 1 |
3 8 5 a |
3 8 5 b |
4 2 6 |
3 8 8 |
4 3 9 |
3 8 9 i |
3 9 2 |
3 8 9 ii |
4 5 8 |
4 5 9 a |
4 5 9 b |
4 5 5 |
4 5 4 |
4 4 7 |
4 3 7 |
4 4 8 |
4 4 9 |
4 6 4 a |
4 6 4 b |
4 6 4 c |
4 6 4 d |
4 6 0 |
G A T A H 4 |
Y C A II a |
Y C A II b |
4 5 6 |
6 0 7 |
5 7 6 |
5 7 0 |
C D Y
a |
C D Y
b |
4 4 2 |
4 3 8 |
| B of B |
12 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
15 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
15 |
10 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
26 |
15 |
19 |
30 |
14 |
15 |
17 |
18 |
12 |
11 |
19 |
23 |
15 |
16 |
18 |
17 |
35 |
38 |
12 |
12 |
| 8368 |
13 |
24 |
13 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
18 |
9 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
29 |
15 |
15 |
17 |
17 |
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36943 |
13 |
24 |
13 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
18 |
9 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
29 |
15 |
15 |
17 |
17 |
10 |
11 |
19 |
23 |
15 |
14 |
18 |
17 |
36 |
37 |
11 |
12 |
| SMGF01 |
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24 |
13 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
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9 |
9 |
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11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
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10 |
11 |
19 |
23 |
15 |
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11 |
12 |
B of B:
Blair of Blair ancestral haplotype (DNA signature)
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DNA test results so far provide
compelling evidence that John Blair (who married Elizabeth Crawford) does not
descend from the Blair of Blair. The result also provide strong, but not
compelling evidence, that Hugh Blair of Ladymuir does not descend from the Blair of
Blair. Although
unlikely it is possible to John is not a descendant of Hugh. Further testing
is required.
The best possible candidate for testing
would be a Blair who descends from Hugh Blair and Mary Blackburn.
Unfortunately I have no information on this line other than Hugh possibly had four
sons shown above. It appears that one of these sons (Robert) died at an
early age since there are two Roberts listed.
The next best candidate would be a
descendant of Hugh Blair (1728) or James Blair who married Mary Stevenson,
both who descend from James Blair and Janet Laird. Although little is known
of Hugh, we do know that the James Blair/ Mary Stevenson line survived at
least to the mid 1900s and possibly even today. A match from a descendant of
this line would at least bring us back to James Blair, son of Hugh Blair of
Ladymuir.
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| Group 5 |
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It's interesting to note that although
Bill and Robert's test results clearly show they do not descend from the Blair of
Blair, they do place them in Group 5, a group comprised of five other
participants with five distinct oldest known ancestors, none of which have
any known connection to the Blair of Ladymuir. For more information on this
group see Group 5. |